Stephen Dubner

Waymo is not an accessibility company.

It's not as if they're inventing autonomous vehicles for accessibility reasons.

They want to reach a large market.

Accessibility is part of it.

It's also the fact of...

the accessibility issue and the fact of disabled people as allies for them is convenient?

Yeah, and I don't – it's like I personally –

I feel like it's just, it's a question.

So that's Carl's position.

Counselor Mejia, though, in the room that day was very fired up, very focused on the target of her ire.

She directed some very strong words at the man sitting across from her, the man in a suit with gray hair.

Kausar Mejia pressed.

She wanted him to answer, how could Waymo create new technology that would improve life for blind people without using driverless cars?

That's the question.

I was going to say, Gary, that I am... It's Greg.

So somebody gave me the wrong piece of paper because they got you as the CEO of Waymo and the Greg.

My team better get it together.

Okay, so let's go back.

Let me just stay with you real quick, right?

I think there is a white guy who had on a suit.