Stephen Dubner

He's a scholar trained as an economist and he's written a bunch of books.

And we did an episode with him on a book he wrote about contempt a few years ago.

And I was just re-listening to it.

I think I want to replay it for our show because you're always searching for like what to say about the moment.

And my show, Freak Radio, we're not a news show at all.

We have a series coming out this winter that I had an idea for two years ago.

I'm slow.

But I'm always looking for ways as a writer to respond to the world we're in, but not to the moment, because that's a whole different conversation.

It's just not me.

There are a lot of people who are great at it, who thrive at it, who love it.

I hate it.

I'm bad at it.

So what am I going to do?

It worked for Gwyneth, didn't it?

It really worked.

Everybody made fun of her.

I don't know anything about her really, but I do know that she said that about the relationship.

That would be my first answer to your question going back is you can't care

There's a quote I like by John Wooden, the late, great UCLA basketball coach who coached these teams some absurd number of college championships in a row, but was also known to be a great, it sounds like such a cliche, but a leader, a teacher, a coach.

He really, really affected the men that he coached, many of whom were very famous and many of whom became NBA players afterwards.