Stephen Dubner

Without evidence, I think that most people who make everything political for themselves or for other people, which we would agree has a bad effect, I would argue that most of them

probably don't really think that much about why they do it, but they've been suggested into it.

There's currency for it, there's incentives to do it, but there's a certain point at which you feel like it's not having a good effect on your mind and body.

Here's an example.

This is also hard to prove, but one argument for why the crack epidemic went way down, not away, but way down,

was because the demand fell so much because the next generation of user saw their older siblings or aunts and uncles using it.

They said, oh my God, I want none of that.

Yeah.

But I think younger people than all of us are already where we're hoping that we get to.

That's my hope.

I think we're the bad generation.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I also think it's just a choice.

I visited Scotland recently for golf.

It was amazing.

I went with members of this golf club of mine.

So it was kind of a group effort.

And it's something that if you had told me 20 years ago, you're going to be wearing a bright red club jacket.

It's great.