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Stephen Dubner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

In Timothy's vision, change comes fast.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

In about five years, driverless cars are as common as Ubers today.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

In around 10 years, every new car, standard, just has a Waymo package, a robot driver and sensors, a button you can press if you don't want to drive.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

I shared Timothy's vision.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

I believe driverless cars will soon be everywhere, not even just because they're safer, but because of consumer demand, the same force that broke the politicians who resisted Uber not long ago.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

A lot of AI is like this, technology too useful to ignore, even if it causes social pain.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

If we're going to be okay, we're going to need to envision some new futures, new compromises, new ways to share the dividends of progress with the people it displaces.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

There are precedents for this.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

When containerization put a ton of longshoremen out of work in the 1960s, the West Coast Union negotiated a deal.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

The employers could bring in the new machines, but they had to pay into a fund that guaranteed the existing workforce wouldn't be laid off and give early retirement payouts to workers whose jobs disappeared.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

You could do something like that.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

You could do a lot of things.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

But whatever we're going to do, I did not find the seeds of that new compromise in Boston.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

It also does not exist in D.C., which has been delaying driverless cars with bureaucratic hurdles.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

Or in New York, where my governor talked briefly about allowing driverless cars, then retreated under pressure.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

But these are the places where a bargain could likely be struck.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

These are where drivers, Democrats, and Teamsters have, for a few more years at least, leverage.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

They should use it, but they'll have to be inventive.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

They'll have to imagine visions of the future more vivid than the word no.

Freakonomics Radio
In a Driverless World, Who Loses and Who Wins?

That again was PJ Vogt and a special two-part feed drop from the Search Engine podcast.