Stephen Dubner

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14,500 appearances 96 recordings 4 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 3d ago

Stephen Dubner’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Freakonomics Radio · 685. How to Survive the A.I. Shock · 4 Sep 2026 podcast

Yes. voice-verified

For a period of time, not forever, I assume. voice-verified

And loads of people gave up. voice-verified

I know nothing about how legislation like this is made. voice-verified

You do, plainly. voice-verified

How does something like that work its way in? voice-verified

That sounds to me, as you describe it, kind of like a poison pill that someone put in there because they didn't want all that federal money to go out. voice-verified

They want to make it harder for displaced workers to get their money. voice-verified

Aaron voice-verified

And maybe to prevent fraud if you have to certify that your actual job is now being done elsewhere. voice-verified

Correct. voice-verified

Let's talk a little bit more about the CHIPS Act, which you really helped create and shepherd and implement when you were Commerce Secretary under President Biden. voice-verified

I gather that the CHIPS Act is a fundamental precursor to raise us and the conversation we're having today, is that right? voice-verified

Yes. voice-verified

It was bipartisan for one. voice-verified

Talk to me a little bit about what you feel it's accomplished and especially what you feel it's accomplished even during the second Trump administration. voice-verified

My sense is that because it benefits a lot of manufacturers in Republican states, that there are very few, if any, Republicans that I've seen of in Congress who are interested in taking chips down, correct? voice-verified

But was the underlying Republican sentiment in favor because there would be jobs and factories and firms in their states, or was it more open than that? voice-verified

You were essentially the chief or at least a chief deal maker in this. voice-verified

You were going to negotiate with these semiconductor firms like Intel and T SMC and Micron and so on, yeah? voice-verified

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