Stephen Dubner

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14,500 appearances 96 recordings 4 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 3d ago

Stephen Dubner’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 63 in all, peaking in Jul 2026 with 12.

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Freakonomics Radio · 685. How to Survive the A.I. Shock · 4 Sep 2026 podcast

Can you just describe that? voice-verified

It sounds fascinating and important. voice-verified

And I'm just curious what those conversations were like. voice-verified

Was it an easy sell or no? voice-verified

The implication being that you need to then pony up the rest to build the factory here and employ our people. voice-verified

Correct. voice-verified

Exactly. voice-verified

So the first meeting was always a little rough. voice-verified

And what kind of leverage did you have if they just said, ooh, that sounds like a lot of trouble and a lot of money. voice-verified

No, thank you. voice-verified

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And by the way, the PRC would probably rather us stay there, correct? voice-verified

Oh my god, of course. voice-verified

So what did you do? voice-verified

Did you just tell them your dad's Boulevard story and then they somehow were won over? voice-verified

Tim Cook, as you may know, recently completed his term as CEO of Apple. voice-verified

His successor, John Turnis, took over on September first. voice-verified

I'm Steven Dubner. voice-verified

This is Freekonomics Radio, and we finish up our conversation with Gina Ramondo right after this break. voice-verified

Raise Us, the new operation that Gina Ramondo is running, will have its initial rollout in four states: Utah, Maryland, Arkansas, and Connecticut. voice-verified

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