Stephen Dubner

So if you never heard it,

Or if you missed some episodes, now is the time to get on board.

Just go follow People I Mostly Admire in your podcast app.

You will not regret it.

In the meantime, I thought that today you might like to hear, as a bonus episode, the final installment of People I Mostly Admire, or PEMA as we call it.

It's a sort of exit interview with Levitt conducted by me.

And it starts now.

This is Freakonomics Radio, the podcast that explores the hidden side of everything with your host, Stephen Dubner.

I'm good.

How are you doing?

So this is the final new episode of People I Mostly Admire, at least for now.

Does that mean you've run out of people you admire?

It'd be interesting to know what would happen if you could substitute the word universe for every time he said Jesus Christ your God.

Like, I would like to see the results of an experiment where a whole bunch of people watch or read a sermon where you do that.

What do you think would be the effect?

Which is kind of odd considering maybe not so odd that you married someone who had that in common with your mom, just because that's what some psychologists say is common.

But I've never known anyone to be more disdainful of everything new agey than you.

So you did People I Mostly Admire for five years, which surprised me when I looked it up.

It went fast, at least for me.

I don't know.