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Stephen J. Ross

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288 total appearances

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

The real problem in Los Angeles is not the Nazis.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

It's all those commies who live in Boyle Heights, basically saying all the Jews were communists, all the communists were Jews.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And when they went to the FBIβ€”

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And brought the evidence.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

The FBI said we're sympathetic but there's nothing we can do until J. Edgar Hoover approves surveillance.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And Hoover refused surveillance because he said none of the Nazis had broken laws.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And so Jews around the country very quickly begin to realize that no one was going to come to their aid.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And so it was up to Jews.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

It was up to blacks.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

It was up to minorities to protect themselves.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

They could not rely on government officials to do the basic job of any government, which is to protect the lives of its citizens.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

They didn't get very far until 2016 is what I would argue.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

That part of the problem was what I call the too many FΓΌhrer problem, which is all these hate group leaders from 1945 on were talking about the need for a fascist coalition.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And we have to have a united fascist front.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

That's the only way we can confront the two major parties because the two major parties were corrupt.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

They also believed that groups like the John Birch Society were way too liberal and that they needed hardcore fascists in government and they needed a third party of fascists.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And they could never quite get that because they were too divided.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

Well, the group they were reporting on was called the Columbians, and they were led by a southerner, Emery Burke, who liked to affect a British accent, and Homer Loomis Jr.,

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

who liked to pretend he was a southerner, even though he was part of an elite New York family that had lost a lot of its money and believed that much of the money it had lost was due to Jews.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And they managed to recruit a great deal of the Klan members