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Stephen J. Ross

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
288 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

In the case of the New York Nazi group, they called themselves the National Renaissance Party.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

In the case of Emmanuel Trujillo, probably the most unusual of all the spies, he rose up to become the number two person in the National Renaissance Party.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And because he could read and write German, he was assigned to be their overseas director, which meant he was corresponding with more Nazis and fascists, some still in Germany, but many had scattered, left Germany to avoid being arrested, and were living throughout the world in Latin America, in Sweden, in Australia.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And this man, Manu Trujillo, was his spy name, Emanuel Trujillo, his real name,

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

was corresponding with all of them and getting more information than the CIA had.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

The reason is if you go back even to the early 30s, the FBI was not that big at the time.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

There were only a few hundred agents.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And J. Edgar Hoover was obsessed.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

with communist infiltration of America.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And to be blunt, he didn't give a damn about Jews and protecting Jews.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

In fact, when there was a Jewish leader who was one of the founding members of the ADL, Leon Lewis, who had moved to Los Angeles,

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And in August 1933, when he realized that no one was doing anything to oppose the rise of Hitler and a Nazi group had just held its first meeting in Los Angeles, he said, if no one's going to do anything, I will.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

He was an attorney.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And he recruited four men, all Christians who went undercover.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

joined these Nazi groups and got information that he knew would be sustainable in court.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And he went to the police chief

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

and tried to get him to take over the operation, saying, I'm just a lawyer, but I've discovered through these agents there are Nazi plots to drive through Boyle Heights, which was the Jewish neighborhood, with machine guns, killing as many Jews as possible.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

There were plots to blow up the docks in Los Angeles where military installations were.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

and various other plots.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And he tried to bring this to the police chief, and the police chief stopped him dead and said, you don't get it.