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Stephen J. Ross

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288 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

They were asked to bring their own guns.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

But they would drill.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

They were getting taught hand-to-hand combat.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And they were ready for the day that the Nazi Party would rise up.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And that's who the Colombians brought in.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

That's who the national states' writers brought in.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

That's who the National Renaissance brought in.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And that's who the Nazi Party brought in, was young, disaffected white men.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And this is – if you take a look at the Proud Boys in particular, more than any of the three percenters or the Oath Keepers, the Proud Boys openly embrace that we are going to go to these demonstrations and we're going to get drunk on beer and we're going to beat the hell out of all these demonstrators, the liberal and lefties out there.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

We're going to beat the hell out of them because they don't even know how to fight.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

it gave them a much larger audience.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And in the post-war era, particularly after 1954, Southerners saw it as an assault by the federal government on their very way of life, that there was never a reckoning in America after the Civil War.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

We never really talked about what happened.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And by the time Reconstruction ended in the 1870s, things went back – racial order went back to the way it was.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

You have, you know, in Plessy versus Ferguson in 1898, that's when the Supreme Court declared separate but equal is equal, which meant the South could maintain its very way of life, a segregated way of life, low voter registration.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

They would control everything.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

But after Brown versus Board of Ed, it was like everything is up for grabs now.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

They saw this as an open attack on their very way of life.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

And that brought these hate groups and right-wing elements within the Democratic and Republican parties to the fore.

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The spy network that took on America's Nazi groups

No, they were out there because they still believed that they could change the very – literally the complexion of America.