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Stephen Kotkin

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

The Soviets in the 70s and 80s were looking at the system and they didn't want to change the system Gorbachev style.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

They didn't want to liberalize it politically.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

They were willing to introduce some market economic liberalization, some market incentives.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

They tried that in 65.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

It actually didn't work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

And anyway, then the Prague Spring happened in 68 and scared the bejesus out of them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Reform looked like the end of the system.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So they tried a little bit of economic liberalization.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

It didn't work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

They didn't want to open up the system politically.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So what's left?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Technological fantasies.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Maybe technology can perfect planning so all the pathologies of the planned economy, all the inefficiencies of the planned economy can be overcome with computers.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Maybe if we invest heavily in tech, we don't have to do the hard choices of

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

of deep and fundamental structural change, which would end our party's monopoly, we can keep the party, we can keep the party's monopoly, we can even keep the state-owned economy, but we can just tweak it with the tech and supercharge it or even turbocharge it and make it work that way.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So computers, tech will save us from the hard choices of deep structural reform, which will threaten our power.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

We know how that worked.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

It didn't work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Now you're looking at China today.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

You have a Communist Party monopoly.