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Stephen Kotkin

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

You can't be half pregnant.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So you can't open up politically.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So how are you going to reintroduce the dynamism?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

How are you going to get the GDP growth?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

How are you going to get the job creation?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

How are you going to get the societal buy-in?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Because if you go too far in that direction, that could threaten the regime.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

And if you don't go far... So tech, we got tech.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

The tech can make our dictatorship function better.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Not just our economy, our productivity, our job creation.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

managing through the demographic crisis, not just the economic and social benefits from tech that tech could deliver, but tech could maybe even make our communist dictatorship immune from challenges because of the surveillances all encompassing, because of our ability to spot things before they happen.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

And so you can see where they would be so seduced, so tempted that tech is the solution.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Here's the problem with that argument.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

First, it didn't work the last time.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

That doesn't mean it won't work this time, but the track record, even though it's a small number of cases, is not good.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

But the other problem is political legitimacy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

You can't get political legitimacy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

You might have thought that, oh, geez, if the GDP grows, that'll give us the legitimacy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Then the GDP stops growing and you no longer have the economic benefits to claim that that's why you're in power.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

They're dead and the system is gone.