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Stephen Meyer

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Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

Let's start with the argument that was posed at the very end.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

Yeah, that's the main one.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

The idea that positing God as an explanation for the origin of the universe doesn't constitute an explanation because then we would have to have an argument, we would have to have an explanation for the origin of God.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

Right.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

It's a standard new atheist saw, a standard new atheist trope.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

And the counter, my counter, is that in every system of thought, whether you're a materialist or a naturalist or a pantheist or something else, something has to function as what philosophers call the prime reality or the ground of all being, the ontological basis of reality.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

And in theism, the thing from which everything else came, something has to answer the question, what is the thing or the entity or the process from which everything else came?

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

In theism, that entity is a personal God who transcends the physical world, who created the physical world.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

In materialism or scientific atheism, that entity is eternal, self-existent, self-creating, self-organizing matter and energy.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

Because of the Big Bang theory, because of what we know from cosmology, astrophysics, and theoretical physics, the best explanation, the best evidence we have is that the physical universe had a beginning, which means that matter and energy is a crummy candidate to be the eternal self-existent thing from which everything else came.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

Matter and energy, space and time, appear as best we can tell to have arisen a finite time ago from something else.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

and therefore positing the existence of a transcendent something else that also is personal and has the capacity to exercise volitional choice, that is to say, to make a dramatic change of state from nothing to something in the manner of a creator,

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

is actually a very rational thing to posit.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

It provides a better explanation for ultimate reality and for the origin of the universe than self-existent matter, which we know was not self-existent.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

Rather, it was a contingent thing that came into existence a finite time ago.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

Fantastic.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

We'll leave the other three arguments and take a look at the next one.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

Not quite sure what Alex is actually arguing there.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

We had an opportunity to have a one-on-one and he withdrew.

Pints With Aquinas
Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

I would have liked to have responded to that point directly with him.