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Pints With Aquinas

Stephen Meyer DESTROYS Atheist TikToks | Last Call Ep. 18

11 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What arguments for atheism does Stephen Meyer address?

1.55 - 21.706 Matt Fradd

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44.573 - 92.87 Matt Fradd

Stop letting Sportsbook steal from you. Download Polymarket and use promo code DRAW for $50 free on your first trade. Use promo code DRAW. Trading not available in all jurisdictions. Check local regulations before trading. Restrictions and eligibility requirements apply. No way. What's the catch? No catch. And it's available in all 50 states. Polymarket is so confident you'll never go back.

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93.03 - 115.537 Matt Fradd

They're giving you $50 free on your first trade. I'm deleting my Sportsbook app. How do I get started? Download Polymarket now and use promo code DRAW for $50 free for your first trade. Stop letting Sportsbook steal from you. Download Polymarket and use promo code DRAW for $50 free on your first trade. Use promo code DRAW. Trading not available in all jurisdictions.

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Evolution causes a lot of problems for Christianity. If you think about a human over here, all the way over to a fish over here, there's like this evolutionary tree that connects them.

128.894 - 156.055 Stephen Meyer

He seems to be indicating that the fossil record shows a continuous morphing and changing. All of these groups arise abruptly in the fossil record with no discernible ancestral precursors. Most of what he said is just factually not true. Dr. Meyer, thank you so much for being on Last Call. Today we are going to look at five different atheist TikToks and have you respond to them. Excellent.

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But before we do that, you have an excellent movie about to hit the theaters. Yeah, a very timely sort of program to respond to scientific atheists and new atheists. We have a new film called The Story of Everything, which tells the story of three great scientific discoveries that provide evidence for the reality of God.

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So it's a direct refutation of the new atheist position that science properly understood undermines belief in God. In fact, there's a fabulous story of the last hundred years of science where one thing after another, very surprising things have been discovered

Chapter 2: How does Stephen Meyer respond to the problem of evil?

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which isn't really an argument against God. It just means there's no reason to appeal to one. You see, God could still exist. So it seems like even Aquinas would agree that the problem of evil is the primary one. How do you respond to it?

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Well, the version of the problem of evil that Neil deGrasse Tyson is putting forward is, I think, probably the strongest argument for atheism, and that is the problem from natural evil. And it's particularly effective against theists who have portrayed God and his relationship to the world as one that would lead us to expect perfection in the natural world.

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The biblical theistic view is not one where we think that nature should be perfect, but rather that nature both bears the hallmarks of its aboriginal design from God. You get this idea from Romans 1, that from the things that are made, the unseen qualities of the Creator, His eternal power and divine nature are clearly seen. But Romans, in the same book, in St.

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Paul in chapter eight, says that the creation is groaning for its redemption, that it's been subjected to decay. And so on a biblical view, we would expect to see two things in nature.

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We would expect to see both evidence of aboriginal design and evidence of subsequent decay that in fact would be harmful to human beings, that there's something that's gone wrong in nature since its original creation. That's the biblical view of what you might call, that's a biblical theology of nature. That's what we should expect to see. And that's actually what we do see.

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And so there's a kind of confirmation of the biblical hypothesis there that I think provides epistemic support or evidential support for biblical theism, not for the kind of pure Platonic theism which anticipates that nature would be pristine in all its effects and all its ways. You get the impression from some of the late 19th century

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natural theologians that they had spent all of their time in an Oxford or Cambridge garden, and that they weren't aware that nature was also subject to decay and problematic aspects. But that's something you would expect if you took the biblical view of nature seriously.

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Suppose you were in an elevator with Neil deGrasse Tyson, and he says, if God is all good and all powerful, we shouldn't expect evil. We do have evil, therefore God does not exist. Elevator ride, what's your one, two-liner response?

703.992 - 728.348 Stephen Meyer

If we're talking about the evil that human beings have perpetrated against other human beings, what used to be called man's inhumanity to man, the classical free will defense, I think, is exactly apt, that God chose to make human beings with agency, with free will, because he viewed that as better than making us as puppets or automatons.

Chapter 3: What is the significance of the fine-tuning argument?

2022.497 - 2045.048 Matt Fradd

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2045.348 - 2058.97 Matt Fradd

Stop letting Sportsbook steal from you. Download Polly Market and use promo code DRAW for $50 free on your first trade. Use promo code DRAW. Trading not available in all jurisdictions. Check local regulations before trading. Restrictions and eligibility requirements apply.

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