Matt Fradd

Speaking of pedophilia, suppose a man says, I view animated child porn. So there's no real victim in that sense of child pornography, which we both agree is horrendous. And by viewing animated child porn, it prevents me from acting out sexually on a child. Now, I deny that. I think that pornography inflames us to then want to act those fantasies out.

And I think there's good studies that back that up. But surely you wouldn't say to the man who views animated child pornography, that's not bad so long as you don't act it out. Wouldn't you want to help this poor, sick dude?

Would you use the word evil of animated child pornography?

If I'm masturbating to animated pictures of pornography, I'm not doing something evil. That's correct. Yeah, I think that's despicable. Really? Yes, of course. Who is being hurt? You have to have a victim. Oh, I'll tell you. There's at least two people being hurt. There's the person who's poisoning himself by encouraging him to think, acting out on children.

It's not just thinking. It's him masturbating to images of children.

I think it's both. I think both masturbation is evil, but I think pornography is a greater evil. Okay, so I don't think masturbation is evil.