Stephen Morris

Equally, you have OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and President Greg Brockman being absolutely massacred in court today.

in a lawsuit with Elon Musk at the moment, accusing them of essentially stealing the assets and the IP of a charity, which could derail their for-profit conversion.

Remember, they were initially founded as a non-profit to develop AGI for the benefit of all humanity.

They're now an $852 billion company with lots of outside investors very keen to see them IPO this year.

Google, compared to those two situations, is a relative oasis of calm.

Well, I think if you look back, when was it Madhu?

Spring 2024, maybe April or May.

That was probably when I would identify the Nadir in particularly large language models and image generation.

They had this, these series of embarrassing flops and Demis, you know, according to our reporting and colleagues took this very hard.

And within a few months, he kind of resolved to take more control of the AI organization within Google.

He demanded more power.

There was a big restructuring.

They merged their two rival research labs, Brain and DeepMind.

And he kind of became, I guess, the second most important person in the company, maybe third, behind Sundar Pichai and then the two co-founders, Larry Page and Sergey Brin.

And as Madhu has flagged out, like child chess prodigy, computer game designer, everything you hear about Demis indicates an incredibly driven, incredibly competitive kind of guy.

And like his initial focus was AI and science.

He wanted to win the Nobel prize.

He wanted to solve unsolvable problems.

But now I think he's kind of got the message.

At least it seems that, you know, he has to be competitive in terms of technology and earnings as well.