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Stephen Morris

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102 total appearances

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FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

He's out there on Twitter shilling for something they like to call Nano Banana 2, which generates short videos.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

I would categorize them personally as AI slop.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

But you can see that Google might be able to sell this technology into advertising, creating full custom video text advertising campaigns in the future.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And Demis is certainly much more present as a booster of the commercial aspect of this technology than he has been before.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And some of the changes he's made at DeepMind are trying to transform it from this more academically oriented lab into a more competitive one.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

For example, one story that we wrote about was the publication of its kind of cutting edge research.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

A lot of the scientists and researchers and engineers at DeepMind wanted to put their research out as soon as possible into the marketplace, upload them online so that their fellow scientists and researchers could absorb it, praise them presumably, but then also build off the technology.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

Dennis ended this.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

He said, no, there's going to be a six-month lag because we're essentially giving away some of our most novel research to free for our competition.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And this was quite controversial internally because it seemed to many people who were kind of in AI for the more academic and research side, moving towards AGI for the benefit of humanity, as opposed to the benefit of Google's bottom line, seemed like a pretty clear shift.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

Yeah, it's gone from like, he still tweets about, you know, these cutting edge like research that goes in nature or the journal of this or that.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

But then next it'll be followed by a tweet, look at this picture of a Labrador and a party hat in a flying car that flights off the edge that nano banana has generated.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

Isn't this great?

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And you're like, do you really care about that?

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

Or is this just part of your new expanded responsibilities as essentially an employee of Alphabet?

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

So Dennis sits within this like interesting constellation of very capable, very competitive people.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

But I do think he can lay claim to being Google's secret weapon.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

Elon Musk is very fond of saying that Google didn't buy DeepMind.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

This is a long-term reverse takeover of Google by an AI research lab, in addition to being probably one of the cheapest tech deals of all time in retrospect.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

So I think we need to set where Demis, you know, sits within the Alphabet organization in its appropriate context.