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Stephen Wolfram

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

It's like if you're running a company.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

You can make a company be very stable for a certain period of time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

If your company gets bought by some private investment group, then you can run a company just fine for five years by just taking what it does and removing all R&D.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

And the company will burn out after a while, but it'll run just fine for a little while.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

So if you tell the AI, keep the humans okay for a thousand years, there's probably a certain set of things that one would do to optimize that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Many of which one might say, well, that would be a pretty big shame for the future of history, so to speak, for that to be what happens.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

But I think in the end, as you start thinking about that question, it is...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

what you realize is there's a whole sort of raft of undecidability, computational irreducibility.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

In other words, one of the good things about what our civilization has gone through and what we humans go through is that there's a certain computational irreducibility to it in the sense that it isn't the case that you can look from the outside and just say, the answer is going to be this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

At the end of the day, this is what's going to happen.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

You actually have to go through the process to find out.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

And I think that feels better in the sense that something is achieved by going through all of this process.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

But it also means that telling the AI, go figure out what will be the best outcome.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Well, unfortunately, it's going to come back and say it's kind of undecidable what to do.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

We'd have to run all of those scenarios to see what happens.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

And if we want it for the infinite future, we're thrown immediately into sort of standard issues of kind of infinite computation and so on.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Right.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Well, I think it's saying, to summarize, this is the result of the universe.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

If that is possible, it tells us the whole sort of structure of thinking about computation and so on and thinking about how stuff works.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

If it's possible to say, and the answer is such and such, you're basically saying there's a way of going outside the universe.