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Stephen Wolfram

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

They were doing things that were as sophisticated as they did when their rules were much more complicated.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

So it didn't look like this idea, oh, to get sophisticated computation, you have to build something with very sophisticated rules.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

That idea didn't seem to pan out.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

And instead, it seemed to be the case that sophisticated computation was completely ubiquitous, even in systems with incredibly simple rules.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

And so that led to this thing that I call the principle of computational equivalence, which basically says when you have a system that follows rules of any kind, then whenever the system isn't doing things that are in some sense obviously simple,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

then the computation that the behavior of the system corresponds to is of equivalent sophistication.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

So that means that when you kind of go from the very, very, very simplest things you can imagine, then quite quickly you hit this kind of threshold above which everything is equivalent in its computational sophistication.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Not obvious that would be the case.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

I mean, that's a science fact.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Well, my guess is that they all blend together.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

But we don't know that for sure yet.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

I mean, this, you know, I should say, I said rather glibly that the principle of computational equivalence is sort of a science fact.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Yes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

I was using air quotes for the science fact.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Just to talk about that for a second, the thing is that it has a complicated epistemological character, similar to things like the second law of thermodynamics, the law of entropy increase.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

What is the second law of thermodynamics?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Is it a law of nature?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Is it a thing that is true of the physical world?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Is it something which is mathematically provable?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

Is it something which happens to be true of the systems that we see in the world?