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Stephen Wolfram

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

Maybe they wouldn't.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

There'd be this long multi-week loop.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

that you go through.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

And then it was actually very, very interesting to see, 1988, first people like physicists, mathematicians, and so on, then lots of other people.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

But this very rapid transition of people realizing they themselves could actually type with their own fingers and make some piece of code that would do a computation that they cared about.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

And, you know, it's been exciting to see lots of discoveries and so on made by using that tool.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

And I think the same thing is, you know, and we see the same thing, you know, Wolfram Alpha is dealing with is not as deep computation as you can achieve with whole Wolfram Language Mathematica stack.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

But the thing that's, to me, particularly exciting about kind of the large language model linguistic interface mechanism is,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

is it dramatically broadens the access to kind of deep computation.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

I mean, it's kind of like one of the things I've sort of thought about recently is what's going to happen to all these programmers?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

What's going to happen to all these people who a lot of what they do is write slabs of boilerplate code?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

And in a sense, I've been saying for 40 years, that's not a very good idea.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

You can automate a lot of that stuff.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

With a high enough level language, that slab of code that's designed in the right way, that slab of code turns into this one function we just implemented that you can just use.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

So in a sense, the fact that there's all of this activity of doing sort of lower level programming is something, for me, it seemed like, I don't think this is the right thing to do.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

But, you know, and lots of people have used our technology and not had to do that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

But the fact is that that's, you know, so when you look at, I don't know, computer science departments that have turned into places where people are learning the trade of programming, so to speak.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

It's sort of a question of what's gonna happen.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

And I think there are two dynamics.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#376 โ€“ Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

One is that kind of sort of boilerplate programming is going to become, you know, it's going to go the way that assembly language went back in the day of something where it's really mostly specified by, at a higher level, you know, you start with natural language, you turn it into a computational language,