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Lex Fridman Podcast

#376 – Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

09 May 2023

4h 19m duration
45155 words
3 speakers
09 May 2023
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Stephen Wolfram is a computer scientist, mathematician, theoretical physicist, and the founder of Wolfram Research, a company behind Wolfram|Alpha, Wolfram Language, and the Wolfram Physics and Metamathematics projects. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off EPISODE LINKS: Stephen's Twitter: https://twitter.com/stephen_wolfram Stephen's Blog: https://writings.stephenwolfram.com Wolfram|Alpha: https://www.wolframalpha.com A New Kind of Science (book): https://amzn.to/30XoEun Fundamental Theory of Physics (book): https://amzn.to/30XbAoT Blog posts: A 50-Year Quest: https://bit.ly/3NQbZ2P What Is ChatGPT doing: https://bit.ly/3VOwtuz PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (06:45) - WolframAlpha and ChatGPT (26:26) - Computation and nature of reality (53:18) - How ChatGPT works (1:53:01) - Human and animal cognition (2:06:20) - Dangers of AI (2:14:39) - Nature of truth (2:36:01) - Future of education (3:12:03) - Consciousness (3:21:02) - Second Law of Thermodynamics (3:44:36) - Entropy (3:57:36) - Observers in physics (4:14:27) - Mortality

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0.031 - 18.225 Lex Fridman

The following is a conversation with Steven Wolfram, his fourth time on this podcast. He's a computer scientist, mathematician, theoretical physicist, and the founder of Wolfram Research, a company behind Mathematica, Wolfram Alpha, Wolfram Language, and the Wolfram Physics and Metamathematics projects.

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18.205 - 44.371 Lex Fridman

He has been a pioneer in exploring the computational nature of reality, and so he's the perfect person to explore with together the new, quickly evolving landscape of large language models as human civilization journeys towards building superintelligent AGI. And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description. It's the best way to support this podcast.

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44.391 - 64.44 Lex Fridman

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64.781 - 85.36 Lex Fridman

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85.58 - 108.693 Lex Fridman

I think learning the foundations is really important and the best way to do that, depending on the field, is probably some kind of material that encapsulates the foundations. It could be textbook, it could be a really good YouTube video, a really good tutorial, whether written or video form. Then there's the actual practice of those foundations by building something. Again, depends on the field.

109.314 - 121.72 Lex Fridman

But I think a component of learning that's often not utilized is to learn from the best people in the world that did that thing you're trying to learn.

121.7 - 151.707 Lex Fridman

I think even if they don't cover the entirety of the foundations, even if they don't cover a kind of hands-on tutorial type of description that you can get elsewhere, through their words, you can get the wisdom of the details that mastering that field requires. And you can also see, kind of take in, the mode of being required to achieve mastery in that field. I think it's so powerful.

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