#376 – Stephen Wolfram: ChatGPT and the Nature of Truth, Reality & Computation

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Lex Fridman 0:00
The following is a conversation with Steven Wolfram, his fourth time on this podcast. He's a computer scientist, mathematician, theoretical physicist, and the founder of Wolfram Research, a company behind Mathematica, Wolfram Alpha, Wolfram Language, and the Wolfram Physics and Metamathematics projects. He has been a pioneer in exploring the computational nature of reality, and so he's the perfect person to explore with together the new, quickly evolving landscape of large language models as human civilization journeys towards building superintelligent AGI. And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description. It's the best way to support this podcast. We got masterclass for learning, better help for mental health and insight tracker for tracking your biological data.
Lex Fridman 0:52
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Lex Fridman 1:35
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Lex Fridman 2:29
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Lex Fridman 3:30
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Lex Fridman 4:34
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