Sterling K. Brown

So what I looked at it, I didn't have much to do in the show, but I was part of the ensemble and I got a chance to move around.

What I looked at it more as, as just an instructional sort of intensive thing.

I'm going to absorb as much as I can from this possible experience and see how I can use it moving forward.

And beyond just the talent part, and this is where Crudup comes in specifically, and Giamatti, and Bushimi, and pretty much the whole cast, I would say.

When you are confident and secure in what you bring to the table, you have no desire to make other people feel small.

And that was massive because you'll come across egos and you really recognize that the egos are also sort of masquerading their own insecurity.

Because they feel like there's something that they're not having that has to make them act out in a particular way.

And when you're around people that are like, oh no, my shit is tight.

They just say, hey, Brown, what you doing?

Come on, let's play.

Exactly.

And that was probably the biggest lesson out of anything.

This is why you guys are successful.

You have genuine curiosity and you put yourself in the position of trying to have profound empathy.

And I have to say, it is a wonderful model, D. Shep, for a white man

To do that.

Because there's not a lot of, not a lot of.

And I'm just saying I'm witnessing and feeling it and I respect it and I appreciate it.

I don't even know if I considered the party to be the end game.

I think the end game for me was paying bills, doing the thing that I loved.