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Chapter 1: What was Faithe Herman's experience auditioning for This Is Us?
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On today's episode of That Was Us, we have a very special interview. We do indeed. With Faith Herman. That's right. Little Annie Pearson. Who needs an intro?
Who needs an intro when you have Chris Sullivan?
It's really interesting when you have these people that you got a chance to sort of watch grow up. I mean, the young lady was... Eight years old, maybe seven when we shot the pilot, and she's 18 now.
It's, what is time?
And especially with kids, because you get a chance to see the whole, like 10 years for us is like, okay, Brown's got more gray. You know what I'm saying? Like things like change.
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Chapter 2: How did Faithe's on-screen relationship with her co-stars develop off-screen?
You guys have children now.
Yeah.
And more gray. And more gray. You have no gray. You have no gray.
Well, that's because I color it.
Yeah, me too.
Oh, I got it. Do you have gray? Oh, yeah.
And I'm bald.
One day I'll just let it all fly, but not yet. And you're just bald.
I can show you my chest hair.
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Chapter 3: What lessons did Faithe learn from her TV parents on This Is Us?
It's very great. You get it here? Oh, yeah. The silverback gorilla, baby.
You know? But it is one of those things when you see people's babies, right? And you see how much they can change in a year. So imagine starting at one age and then growing up to another one. It's kind of, I get a little verklempt with it. And I feel like they're not my children and they kind of are my children. It's a cool thing. What is this book you brought? Sorry.
Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no.
Chapter 4: How did Annie Pearson evolve throughout the series?
No, no, please. I'm interested in this book too.
I check out books. So I was listening to a podcast. This dude, Ezra Klein. You guys may listen to him. Love, love, love. Very, very cool. And the guest that he had on, one of her books, he ends each podcast with your three books a year. And this one was called Talk to Your Boys. And it's sort of 16 conversations to help tweens and teens growing into confident, caring young men.
And I have a teen and a tween. Yes.
Right?
I got a 10-year-old and a 14-year-old.
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Chapter 5: What memorable scene with Ron Cephas Jones impacted Faithe's portrayal of Annie?
It's the perfect book for you. It's the perfect book. I was like, oh, that sounds like a good recommendation. I should check it out. And a lot of it with the tweens, and I don't know if this applies to girls in the same way or not. You guys could speak to this if you have any expertise.
There's this sort of withdrawal that can happen with young men as a way of sort of asserting their own independence, right? So it's not attitude for the sake of attitude. It's like, how do I move from boy to manhood? And sort of needing the space to figure that out. And what you as a parent need to do. And so they talk about...
showing up like a cat versus a dog, meaning like cat, because you just sort of like go around the corner and you take a look and you see, you know, let them know that you're there if they need you. Whereas puppy energy is like, hey, want to play? Like want to get together?
Chapter 6: How did Faithe balance her acting career with school and growing up?
And the puppy energy is usually something that is not as readily received. As you know.
Yeah.
You know, I'll tell you something. This is interesting. Our dog is under the weather. Because normally as soon as Ryan, like he doesn't get excited for anybody else. But when Ryan comes out of the bedroom, he's like, it's time to play. It's time to play. Ryan came out of the bedroom and I didn't hear anything. And I was like, where's Zion? And I went back to look.
He stays in the laundry room in the evening and he was just down. He was looking up like.
Oh no, is he okay?
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Chapter 7: What was Faithe's experience attending the SAG Awards as a young actress?
I hope so. I hope so. We're going to take him to the vet. She's going to take him to the vet today. But even Brown, who's not like a super puppy fan, I was like, all right, that's not good. I need him to annoy me when she walks out of the room. Yeah, you're not hurt.
I'm not heartless. Buddy, well, good thoughts to design.
Sending good thoughts to design. You're just like a cat. I'm just like a cat. And I sort of like that energy is, so I see it with my son. I try to, number one, try to make sure that I'm having conversations with him that aren't just transactional, but are just sort of like informational. Sometimes he'll be on the computer doing homework and I'll just go lay down on the bed.
Chapter 8: What future projects is Faithe excited about beyond This Is Us?
Yeah. Just being present.
Just being there. He's like, what are you doing? I'm like, nothing. He's like, all right. And then every once in a while, I'll just lay there and he'll be like, what did you think of something? Or what did you think of the soccer game? He'll start the conversation. I'll be like, oh, bro, you played a great game. But because so much of what we do is like, did you take out the trash?
Have you finished your homework? Have you picked out your clothes? Do you know? And that can be, I was like, oh, that would suck. If every time I opened my mouth, all he heard was do, do, do. So I'm working on that. And it's nice. I see he's starting to go to parties. Starting to go to parties and the bird is, it's tough. You know what I'm saying?
Because she's like, all right, where's the party? They do these things now where they don't give you the location of the party until the day of. Like they'll do some sort of like- So there can't be any evil planning on the part of tweens and teens. Something like that. And extra people showing up for it, et cetera.
And Ryan's like, well, the first party you went to, she's like, I need to know the name of a parent and I need to make eye contact with him. And he's like, you have to walk me into the party. And you forget how easily everything is embarrassing. Well, sure. Everything is like, you're not going to walk into the party with me. I know.
It's so hard to put yourself back in that frame of mind.
You got to remember.
Because now it just seems ridiculous. Like, yeah, I'm walking you in. What's the big deal?
I don't know that house. Exactly.
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