Steve Fishman, Narrator
👤 PersonAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Old timers. According to Jack, they were all in cahoots, including his own lawyer, the judge, the prosecutors, and certainly Dave Messmore, who he says shaped Collier's testimony.
Old timers. According to Jack, they were all in cahoots, including his own lawyer, the judge, the prosecutors, and certainly Dave Messmore, who he says shaped Collier's testimony.
But now Collier is talking to Daddy again, though with reservations.
But now Collier is talking to Daddy again, though with reservations.
I have. One result of my conversations with Jack, an overflowing mailbox. Jack wants to show me all the programs he's completed in prison. Cage your rage, victim awareness, resolving conflict. Jack must have taken every course the prison offers. Toastmasters and flag etiquette are among his credits. Jack is also a peer social worker recruited by the administration and a religious advisor.
I have. One result of my conversations with Jack, an overflowing mailbox. Jack wants to show me all the programs he's completed in prison. Cage your rage, victim awareness, resolving conflict. Jack must have taken every course the prison offers. Toastmasters and flag etiquette are among his credits. Jack is also a peer social worker recruited by the administration and a religious advisor.
Jack says all this has made him a different person.
Jack says all this has made him a different person.
Rock Bottom was 1997. Sherry had left him, unaware that Jack had lied to her too. He'd exhausted his legal appeals. He felt like life was over.
Rock Bottom was 1997. Sherry had left him, unaware that Jack had lied to her too. He'd exhausted his legal appeals. He felt like life was over.
Then one day, Jack is sitting in the prison's day room among inmates watching TV, playing cards. He's leafing through the Old Testament when he feels something.
Then one day, Jack is sitting in the prison's day room among inmates watching TV, playing cards. He's leafing through the Old Testament when he feels something.
Did God forgive you?
Did God forgive you?
But will anyone else? In 2010, after two decades in prison, Jack was finally eligible for parole. He was denied. The board told him to try again in 10 years. So in 2020, he did. He was denied again.
But will anyone else? In 2010, after two decades in prison, Jack was finally eligible for parole. He was denied. The board told him to try again in 10 years. So in 2020, he did. He was denied again.
And so, Jack became convinced that Collier was blocking his parole. And as Jack sees it, Collier speaks for his mother, which gives him a powerful voice.
And so, Jack became convinced that Collier was blocking his parole. And as Jack sees it, Collier speaks for his mother, which gives him a powerful voice.
In the past, Jack had tried to enlist Collier's support.
In the past, Jack had tried to enlist Collier's support.