Steve Fishman, Narrator
👤 PersonAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Of course, if anyone has good reason to oppose Jack's parole, it's Collier. The question now is, will he ever believe that his father's crime is forgivable?
Of course, if anyone has good reason to oppose Jack's parole, it's Collier. The question now is, will he ever believe that his father's crime is forgivable?
Okay. Collier doesn't buy the accident version. But guess what? None of this means Collier opposes Jack going free. How are you feeling about his parole?
Okay. Collier doesn't buy the accident version. But guess what? None of this means Collier opposes Jack going free. How are you feeling about his parole?
I visited Collier one day at his apartment in Santa Monica, California. At 47, he's nearly the same age as his father was when, well, when everything happened. These days, he's more SoCal than Midwest. He's got bleach blonde highlights, a gym addiction, ambitions in the entertainment industry. He lives in a nice one-bedroom apartment that's part workspace. It's lined with tripods and cameras.
I visited Collier one day at his apartment in Santa Monica, California. At 47, he's nearly the same age as his father was when, well, when everything happened. These days, he's more SoCal than Midwest. He's got bleach blonde highlights, a gym addiction, ambitions in the entertainment industry. He lives in a nice one-bedroom apartment that's part workspace. It's lined with tripods and cameras.
There's a podcast studio upstairs. Yes, Collier has a podcast. It's autobiographical.
There's a podcast studio upstairs. Yes, Collier has a podcast. It's autobiographical.
So Collier is still captivated by his family history. He doesn't always seem to want to put it behind him. Instead, he goes deeper, keeps unburying secrets. He's learned a lot about his father's. One day, talking to his aunt, his mother's sister, Collier learns about Noreen's secrets.
So Collier is still captivated by his family history. He doesn't always seem to want to put it behind him. Instead, he goes deeper, keeps unburying secrets. He's learned a lot about his father's. One day, talking to his aunt, his mother's sister, Collier learns about Noreen's secrets.
For instance, there are the stories his mom told about her wealthy childhood as a member of Philadelphia's Schmidt Brewery family.
For instance, there are the stories his mom told about her wealthy childhood as a member of Philadelphia's Schmidt Brewery family.
Noreen's roots were modest middle class, just like Jack's. One reason they connected, I guess. Another was that they were both in on a con, both trying to appear more than they were. I imagine them at a dinner table of guests, one listening to the other spin fictions about their pasts.
Noreen's roots were modest middle class, just like Jack's. One reason they connected, I guess. Another was that they were both in on a con, both trying to appear more than they were. I imagine them at a dinner table of guests, one listening to the other spin fictions about their pasts.
Collier made peace with his mother's lies. Jacks are different. They hurt people. And for Collier, that's fraud. His father's parole is fast approaching, and he still isn't sure what to do. But other people are.
Collier made peace with his mother's lies. Jacks are different. They hurt people. And for Collier, that's fraud. His father's parole is fast approaching, and he still isn't sure what to do. But other people are.
Dave Messmore is 81 now, the same age as Jack. He retired decades ago. Unlike Jack and Collier, he doesn't seem to have changed much. The same stoic, mustachioed, mild-mannered cop who showed up on the Boyle's doorstep and actually listened to the hyper-articulate 11-year-old worried about his mom. Dave's still devoted to Collier. What does he think about Jack living with Collier?
Dave Messmore is 81 now, the same age as Jack. He retired decades ago. Unlike Jack and Collier, he doesn't seem to have changed much. The same stoic, mustachioed, mild-mannered cop who showed up on the Boyle's doorstep and actually listened to the hyper-articulate 11-year-old worried about his mom. Dave's still devoted to Collier. What does he think about Jack living with Collier?
As far as Dave is concerned, Jack should die in prison. And he'll tell the parole board that again this year. Nothing Jack can do about this roadblock. But Collier, despite the influence of Dave, has a more complex view.
As far as Dave is concerned, Jack should die in prison. And he'll tell the parole board that again this year. Nothing Jack can do about this roadblock. But Collier, despite the influence of Dave, has a more complex view.