Steve Inskeep

Some of those promises are things that Democrats themselves would like, capping interest rates on credit cards, to give one example. Has there been some discussion among Democrats that, I mean, you're almost a little envious he's gotten ahead of you on some of these issues?

Some of those promises are things that Democrats themselves would like, capping interest rates on credit cards, to give one example. Has there been some discussion among Democrats that, I mean, you're almost a little envious he's gotten ahead of you on some of these issues?

I think of another aspect of this, though. Dean Phillips, one of your fellow Democratic members, was on television this past week, Fox News as a matter of fact, and he appeared to wish Democrats acted a little more like Trump in this way. He wished that they would appeal to business people, to get smart people into government, to talk about efficiency.

I think of another aspect of this, though. Dean Phillips, one of your fellow Democratic members, was on television this past week, Fox News as a matter of fact, and he appeared to wish Democrats acted a little more like Trump in this way. He wished that they would appeal to business people, to get smart people into government, to talk about efficiency.

I think of another aspect of this, though. Dean Phillips, one of your fellow Democratic members, was on television this past week, Fox News as a matter of fact, and he appeared to wish Democrats acted a little more like Trump in this way. He wished that they would appeal to business people, to get smart people into government, to talk about efficiency.

He seemed to wish Democrats would do what Elon Musk is doing, even if he doesn't agree with the way that Elon Musk is doing it.

He seemed to wish Democrats would do what Elon Musk is doing, even if he doesn't agree with the way that Elon Musk is doing it.

He seemed to wish Democrats would do what Elon Musk is doing, even if he doesn't agree with the way that Elon Musk is doing it.

Which is the thing that's in the news. It's being discussed.

Which is the thing that's in the news. It's being discussed.

Which is the thing that's in the news. It's being discussed.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was talking in NPR Studio One. We met with her at a moment when Democrats are out of power and trying to find their way back in. And we're reaching the point in our conversation where we asked about one of the most polarizing issues, immigration. Surveys suggest that President Biden's handling of that issue cost Democrats votes, even in some immigrant communities.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was talking in NPR Studio One. We met with her at a moment when Democrats are out of power and trying to find their way back in. And we're reaching the point in our conversation where we asked about one of the most polarizing issues, immigration. Surveys suggest that President Biden's handling of that issue cost Democrats votes, even in some immigrant communities.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was talking in NPR Studio One. We met with her at a moment when Democrats are out of power and trying to find their way back in. And we're reaching the point in our conversation where we asked about one of the most polarizing issues, immigration. Surveys suggest that President Biden's handling of that issue cost Democrats votes, even in some immigrant communities.

So can Democrats push back against a president they see as lawless while also defending people in the country who lack legal status? Her answer comes right after this. It's a special edition of Up First. I'm Steve Inskeep. The first time I talked with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was June 27th, 2018.

So can Democrats push back against a president they see as lawless while also defending people in the country who lack legal status? Her answer comes right after this. It's a special edition of Up First. I'm Steve Inskeep. The first time I talked with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was June 27th, 2018.

So can Democrats push back against a president they see as lawless while also defending people in the country who lack legal status? Her answer comes right after this. It's a special edition of Up First. I'm Steve Inskeep. The first time I talked with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was June 27th, 2018.

It was the morning after a primary election in New York when a leading House Democrat, Joe Crowley, lost his seat. On the radio the next morning, we heard Crowley singing in tribute to the woman who defeated him. Let's hear that moment from 2018. Born to run, as Springsteen fans will know. Crowley was singing for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She's 28 years old.

It was the morning after a primary election in New York when a leading House Democrat, Joe Crowley, lost his seat. On the radio the next morning, we heard Crowley singing in tribute to the woman who defeated him. Let's hear that moment from 2018. Born to run, as Springsteen fans will know. Crowley was singing for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She's 28 years old.

It was the morning after a primary election in New York when a leading House Democrat, Joe Crowley, lost his seat. On the radio the next morning, we heard Crowley singing in tribute to the woman who defeated him. Let's hear that moment from 2018. Born to run, as Springsteen fans will know. Crowley was singing for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She's 28 years old.