Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Says She's Fighting President Trump's "Illusion of Power"
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Why is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez challenging the Justice Department?
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez challenged the Justice Department to say if she's under investigation.
How does Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez view the current administration?
It's important to call this administration's bluff. They rely on the illusion of power.
What are the Democratic Party's strategies to regain working class support?
The Democrat wants to find her party's way back into power. It's a special episode of Up First from NPR News. I'm Steve Inskeep. Ocasio-Cortez wants to win back working class voters who supported President Trump in 2024, which leads to a question. To what extent is immigration as an issue part of your problem with working class voters?
I guess my question would be, what does the word problem mean?
Also, did Trump get ahead of Democrats on working class economic issues? And have Democrats lost ground because they're bad at governing? Stay with us. We'll put those questions and more to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is one of the Democratic Party's biggest stars. When she was first elected in 2018, she was very much an outsider, a social media phenomenon, often a critic of her party's programs and leaders. Now she's seen as more of an insider, a somewhat more senior figure, still a big star. And so we brought her here to Studio One to ask what she thinks her party can do with its current dilemma. Democrats are out of power in Washington. They're watching President Trump enact his agenda. And they know the president has great appeal with a large part of their traditional base, the working class, people Ocasio-Cortez would feel that she would like to represent. Here's some of our conversation. If you had to pick one word, what is a word that describes the state of your party right now?
I think a word to describe the state of the party is... Resolved. If I had to pick one word, it would be resolved.
It's not shocked or dismayed or anything like that at this moment?
What is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's opinion on Medicaid cuts?
I mean, in this moment, I think we've moved through shock. I think we've moved through dismay. I think we've moved through the five stages of grief. I think we've moved through that defensiveness. But it is, I think, a rapidly evolving situation.
Just before we talk, the situation evolved a bit more. House Republicans approved a budget plan with hardly a vote to spare. Ocasio-Cortez joined every Democrat in voting no.
I do believe that the Republican Party is making certain large errors right now and that they are underestimating the public vote.
She focused especially on one large number, $880 billion. That's the amount of savings that Republicans propose to find, much of it likely from Medicaid, which provides health care for millions. When asked this week, Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson defended those cuts.
Those are precious taxpayer dollars.
And he told reporters at the Capitol that the change would not affect care.
Can you say unequivocally that further down the line there won't be any cuts to Medicaid programs?
How have Democrats responded to Trump's appeal to traditional constituencies?
Yeah, so look, let me clarify what we're talking about with Medicaid. Medicaid is hugely problematic because it has a lot of fraud, waste, and abuse. Everybody knows that. We all know it intuitively. No one in here would disagree.
In our conversation, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez essentially did disagree, casting doubt that cutting waste could save so much.
If that cut becomes reality, it's important for people to understand not just are people going to be thrown off of Medicaid. Not only are Medicare recipients who receive, for example, long-term care benefits from Medicaid going to be affected. But people who are not on Medicaid are likely going to see their health insurance premiums go up because the more people get kicked off of Medicaid, the more uninsured people there are in the United States, the more they use ERs, the more that they go directly to hospitals for care, and the... cost of uninsured people is oftentimes then born in health insurance premiums as well and deductibles.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
Why is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez challenging the Justice Department?
0:02–0:08
2
How does Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez view the current administration?
0:08–0:13
3
What are the Democratic Party's strategies to regain working class support?
0:13–2:23
4
What is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's opinion on Medicaid cuts?
2:23–3:32
5
How have Democrats responded to Trump's appeal to traditional constituencies?
3:32–6:37
6
What challenges do Democrats face with immigration under Biden?
6:37–25:47
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