Steve Inskeep

Is there another problem Democrats face because you would like government to work? And there's a broad perception, including among many liberals and progressives, that government doesn't work very well. It takes forever to build something in this country, to give a very obvious example.

We do have a couple million federal workers, and a lot of people aren't sure how those people really touch their lives or do anything for them. Do you think government really isn't working well enough?

We do have a couple million federal workers, and a lot of people aren't sure how those people really touch their lives or do anything for them. Do you think government really isn't working well enough?

We do have a couple million federal workers, and a lot of people aren't sure how those people really touch their lives or do anything for them. Do you think government really isn't working well enough?

Would you like a president to go in and break some china and mess things up, even if you don't like the way this president is trying to do that?

Would you like a president to go in and break some china and mess things up, even if you don't like the way this president is trying to do that?

Would you like a president to go in and break some china and mess things up, even if you don't like the way this president is trying to do that?

Representative Ocasio-Cortez, thanks so much for coming by.

Representative Ocasio-Cortez, thanks so much for coming by.

Representative Ocasio-Cortez, thanks so much for coming by.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez spoke with us in NPR Studio One here in Washington, D.C. You can watch the full interview on camera at the NPR app or on our website, npr.org, or on YouTube. This special episode of Up First was edited by Susan Davis, Kelsey Snell, and Reena Advani. It was produced by Adam Beirne.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez spoke with us in NPR Studio One here in Washington, D.C. You can watch the full interview on camera at the NPR app or on our website, npr.org, or on YouTube. This special episode of Up First was edited by Susan Davis, Kelsey Snell, and Reena Advani. It was produced by Adam Beirne.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez spoke with us in NPR Studio One here in Washington, D.C. You can watch the full interview on camera at the NPR app or on our website, npr.org, or on YouTube. This special episode of Up First was edited by Susan Davis, Kelsey Snell, and Reena Advani. It was produced by Adam Beirne.

Engineering support came from Neil T. Vault and Hannah Glovna, and our executive producer is Kelly Dickens. I'm Steve Inskeep. Thanks for joining us.

Engineering support came from Neil T. Vault and Hannah Glovna, and our executive producer is Kelly Dickens. I'm Steve Inskeep. Thanks for joining us.

Engineering support came from Neil T. Vault and Hannah Glovna, and our executive producer is Kelly Dickens. I'm Steve Inskeep. Thanks for joining us.

Holman was upset, I suppose, because he felt that you were giving advice to people who were here illegally. Were you?

Holman was upset, I suppose, because he felt that you were giving advice to people who were here illegally. Were you?

Holman was upset, I suppose, because he felt that you were giving advice to people who were here illegally. Were you?

He said he was going to report you or even that he did reach out to the Department of Justice. Have you heard from the Department of Justice?