Steve Joordens

They literally will never be fine.

But they will be able to learn how to live with this carried with them.

and it's precisely like over time accepting that things won't be fine that where healing lives like what does healing look like i mean i think you you try how you can to build more safety around you and so hopefully there's there's changes that come and and as you know i have some thoughts around some of that notion but but the idea of you know once you've come together you know we hear anything from hardening the schools with more locks or whatever

Um, the community may be becoming a little bit more watching out for each other or whatnot.

There were certainly will be probably some acts that are intended to make everyone feel a little more secure, but these things are so random.

They're so hard to control.

And, and, you know, that's the lesson everyone will bring with them is like, what could I have done differently?

They probably wouldn't do anything differently.

It's just one of these things that happens.

And those random things can be really, really hard on us because we know we can't control the random, uh, and we want to control these things.

Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing as far as helping people is, first of all, respecting where they're at.

Like every kid's going to react to this very differently.

To the extent anybody wants to talk, it's listen, listen, listen, listen.

When someone is talking with you, when they're expressing their stress and stuff, they're sharing it.

They're quite literally sharing it.

You're taking some of that away from them.

And you do that by listening very carefully to

You know, not trying to inject yourself into it, but just allowing them to kind of express whatever they have to express with as little judgment as you can.

There could be anger.

There could be all sorts of, you know, things that these students now have in them that it's good for them to be able to express.