Steve Killelea

will be, let's say, things like looking at the attitudes of a society, fractionalised elites.

So that's where the elites within a society start getting further apart and fighting more.

We can see that epitomised in the US elections currently in the last few years there.

Corruption, low levels of corruption, measures of the rule of law, they become very, very important as well.

And so there'll be a couple of the different things which come into it.

There's measures of the functioning of business, which is done, let's say, by study, by research, which comes out of the World Bank.

And they're used to doing business rankings.

That would be other extents.

Examples, the other ones would be the quality of information within a society.

And obviously this past is about increasing quality of information within society.

But in many Western societies, it's been deteriorating over the last decade.

Exclusion of socioeconomic groups is key.

And you can see that particularly related to conflict in many of the less peaceful countries in the world.

So that'd be some of the things.

Yes, we've been at this about 15 years now, so we've got a large body of research.

And for me, I'm an accidental man of peace.

I mentioned earlier on how I got there.

But for me, learning about positive peace has been profoundly changed the way I actually view society, and particularly the implementation of systems thinking into it.

It's a vastly different way of being able to actually just perceive the way you

societies operate and work and I guess that's why I wrote Peace in the Age of Chaos was really to try and get that out and then picked a lot of the various pieces of adventures which I'd had in the developing world some in some fairly violent places to try and then ground it