Steve Martocci

Supplements are covered under federal code 21 CFR 111. And that's basically that for pharmaceuticals, there's a whole process that they have to get pre-approved following CGMP standards and all these different things. That's good manufacturing standards. Yeah, current good manufacturing process. With supplements, it's not something that gets done up front.

Supplements are covered under federal code 21 CFR 111. And that's basically that for pharmaceuticals, there's a whole process that they have to get pre-approved following CGMP standards and all these different things. That's good manufacturing standards. Yeah, current good manufacturing process. With supplements, it's not something that gets done up front.

You can be held to this standard retroactively, like if something comes up, but it's kind of up to you to just say you're doing this. You can get, retroactively, someone can say they're having a negative experience, report it with the FDA, they can come after you for not following the practice, but no one's checking up front.

You can be held to this standard retroactively, like if something comes up, but it's kind of up to you to just say you're doing this. You can get, retroactively, someone can say they're having a negative experience, report it with the FDA, they can come after you for not following the practice, but no one's checking up front.

You can be held to this standard retroactively, like if something comes up, but it's kind of up to you to just say you're doing this. You can get, retroactively, someone can say they're having a negative experience, report it with the FDA, they can come after you for not following the practice, but no one's checking up front.

Right, and those latent things you're talking about, the ones that might be heavy metal exposure that take a long time to ever show up or you don't know the source of it, There's no guideline there.

Right, and those latent things you're talking about, the ones that might be heavy metal exposure that take a long time to ever show up or you don't know the source of it, There's no guideline there.

Right, and those latent things you're talking about, the ones that might be heavy metal exposure that take a long time to ever show up or you don't know the source of it, There's no guideline there.

And when they actually tested it, it was full of heavy metals. And even if you follow CGMP, you're supposed to occasionally test your lots. I think it's like once a year. And then even then, they don't provide the guidance on heavy metals. It's kind of up to you to be like, well, for this type of product, what should the...

And when they actually tested it, it was full of heavy metals. And even if you follow CGMP, you're supposed to occasionally test your lots. I think it's like once a year. And then even then, they don't provide the guidance on heavy metals. It's kind of up to you to be like, well, for this type of product, what should the...

And when they actually tested it, it was full of heavy metals. And even if you follow CGMP, you're supposed to occasionally test your lots. I think it's like once a year. And then even then, they don't provide the guidance on heavy metals. It's kind of up to you to be like, well, for this type of product, what should the...

Prop 65 helps a little bit in terms of making sure you don't have to put the label on there if you exceed those numbers. But it's a pretty wild west, to be perfectly honest. And there are systems now that can say, come up with an idea and a brand and get a supplement and market in weeks. So that's why you're seeing the explosion.

Prop 65 helps a little bit in terms of making sure you don't have to put the label on there if you exceed those numbers. But it's a pretty wild west, to be perfectly honest. And there are systems now that can say, come up with an idea and a brand and get a supplement and market in weeks. So that's why you're seeing the explosion.

Prop 65 helps a little bit in terms of making sure you don't have to put the label on there if you exceed those numbers. But it's a pretty wild west, to be perfectly honest. And there are systems now that can say, come up with an idea and a brand and get a supplement and market in weeks. So that's why you're seeing the explosion.

So we've gone in and we've taken 29 different points and we've built a scoring system. This is your trust score. This is our trust score. So basically you're taking 29 different attributes, whether it's toxic. Lot testing, CGMP. The biggest one that makes a difference is whether or not you're getting a third party to certify your CGMP practices. That's kind of like the fundamental.

So we've gone in and we've taken 29 different points and we've built a scoring system. This is your trust score. This is our trust score. So basically you're taking 29 different attributes, whether it's toxic. Lot testing, CGMP. The biggest one that makes a difference is whether or not you're getting a third party to certify your CGMP practices. That's kind of like the fundamental.

So we've gone in and we've taken 29 different points and we've built a scoring system. This is your trust score. This is our trust score. So basically you're taking 29 different attributes, whether it's toxic. Lot testing, CGMP. The biggest one that makes a difference is whether or not you're getting a third party to certify your CGMP practices. That's kind of like the fundamental.

So instead of you just saying, yeah, I'm good. I'm going to self-certify that I'm following these practices. There's NSF and UL, these two big firms that will come in and do what you are doing, go tour the facilities, make sure you're actually following, give you a certification. That's like a fundamental big one. And there's a surprising number of brands that don't follow it.

So instead of you just saying, yeah, I'm good. I'm going to self-certify that I'm following these practices. There's NSF and UL, these two big firms that will come in and do what you are doing, go tour the facilities, make sure you're actually following, give you a certification. That's like a fundamental big one. And there's a surprising number of brands that don't follow it.

So instead of you just saying, yeah, I'm good. I'm going to self-certify that I'm following these practices. There's NSF and UL, these two big firms that will come in and do what you are doing, go tour the facilities, make sure you're actually following, give you a certification. That's like a fundamental big one. And there's a surprising number of brands that don't follow it.