Steve Robinson

And all of a sudden you've got a new molecule and that's legal.

And it gives you the same experience, but because it's a little bit more complex, it's harder for your body to metabolize, still gets you high, but it's worse for your body.

And people start using that.

And then they figure out, okay, well, they've got a new formulation for bath salts.

And so they make that illegal.

And then the chemists go back and add another hydrogen atom and so on and so forth.

So it's a war of escalation between the regulators and the people who are making drugs illegal and the chemists who are turning out new substances to make people high fast enough so that people end up on a freeway gnawing some guy's face off because they ate eighth generation bath salts.

For sure, for sure.

I think it took me – it was circumspect.

My arrival at 7-0-H was a little circumspect through the investigation of the illicit Chinese marijuana that was happening in Maine.

But it's ultimately derived from a –

a tree that grows in Southeast Asia, in Indonesia, and it's harvested, the tree is harvested, there's this elaborate chemical process that it goes through, and so they call it natural because it begins with a plant, but it's really a lab-made synthetic drug that is more potent than morphine, depending on how you measure it.

Damn.

Yeah, I think I've read 46 times.

Yeah.

And again, it depends on how you measure it, but it is an opioid.

It's a legal opioid, just like Percocet or Oxycontin, and you can buy it at gas stations and convenience stores all across the United States.

In fact, I landed here and it took me 10 minutes to find a place near your studio where I was able to find some gas station heroin.

It's a drink mix, wonderfully flavored.

Yeah, wonderfully flavored lemon and watermelon.