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Steve Saretsky

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2032 total appearances

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The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

We wanted the right to apply the cultural exemption and agreed that this would be the price for doing so.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

Yeah.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

I mean, bear in mind, this was a decision that legislation, as you said, we talked about a number of years ago.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

Right.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

So this dates back quite a while.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

And at that time, the mantra of the government was make web giants pay.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

Well, this is what happens when you take an approach that says we want to make web giants pay and it's consumers and others that end up footing the bill.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

I'm not wholly convinced that if the government was thinking about legislation today, this is precisely what they would do.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

In fact, it wouldn't shock me as part of renegotiations if Canada was willing to cede on this issue.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

This doesn't feel like a Carney issue in the way that it did a Trudeau issue.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

But nevertheless, I mean, it's fundamentally about legislation.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

bringing in money with a cultural lobby that has had the ear of the government for a long time.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

I think it's very hard to make the case that this is about jobs or about Canadian, you know, traditional Canadian culture, so-called Canadian stories, because if it was, we'd recognize that those services, as I mentioned, already invest heavily in Canada, right?

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

So they already...

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

major employers of people in this sector based on those investments.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

They are already producing content that many would recognize as Canadian, but for the fact that they insist on owning the production for pretty obvious reasons.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

So I don't think it's that.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

I think at the end of the day, it's

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

something that proves popular with a certain segment, particularly in the cultural communities and in Quebec.

The Loonie Hour
Canada's State Surveillance Bill - w/ guest Michael Geist

And so that's why we see this playing out the way that we do.