Steve Tuck

Yeah, exactly.

Meanwhile, that's right.

Kevin is like, well, RIP to being a LinkedIn influencer.

He's going to lose it on the AS400.

Yeah, the AS400, a code named Silver Lake at IBM was a really interesting project, really interesting history.

It was the IBM Rochester.

It comes out of the origin of actually a system called Future System.

which was post IBM, the OS 360, rather, system 360.

And future system kind of, I think it is one, and maybe folks in the chat can let me know, but I think future system may be the canonical second system.

I think it is possible that, I think that, Adam, I may be a bit over my skis, but I believe that's the second system syndrome, maybe a Fred Brooksism, and may come from future system.

We can go back, check all that.

Um, but the, um, that turned into system 38, which ultimately turned into the S400.

Um, and the, the, what, there's a bunch of value in there, very much hardware software co-design and very much designing for the actual business case applications.

So they did an excellent job of really delivering tremendous value to, to customers, um, in this kind of, I

And it was an extremely successful product.

I think it was one of the most successful products in IBM's history.

And a bit of a veteran, a bit of a casualty of the great IBM civil wars between Poughkeepsie, Rochester, Austin, and Boca Raton, which is kind of the history of IBM.

It's those four...

The four entities that all hated one another's guts and spent all their time fighting with one another.

So AS400 ultimately, I think, we were talking to a large retail customer, Steve, that had just decommissioned thousands of them, like in the last two years, which is not at all a surprise.