Steven Bartlett

His real interest was in somehow dominating Iran and getting them to give him a share of the oil revenues, which is what happened in Venezuela.

You know, so he's also not even thinking the way previous Democratic presidents thought.

So even George W. Bush, also somebody who made huge mistakes, you know, and so on.

You never heard George W. Bush say, what I want is to run Iraq and steal its oil.

They wanted to make Iraq into a democracy, which, by the way, it is now.

But it was a long, bloody pathway.

Trump doesn't even think like that.

He thinks my idea is to do some deal with one of the dictators and move on.

And actually, that's what's happened in Venezuela.

So Venezuela is still a dictatorship, and it's run by the same regime as before, just led by a different person.

Yeah, and it's not even clear what he means by that and so on.

But it was not the action of a 20th or 21st century president.

If he keeps saying we've won, we've won, it's over.

One of the problems of having a president who lies all the time is that, you know, you just stop believing him.

Even if the war was over, you wouldn't believe it because his track record is not good.

I mean, look, I think the important thing to understand about Trump is that he's somebody who has no...

He doesn't care that much about what happened before he was president.

He doesn't know the history of Iran.

You know, he doesn't understand much about the history of the region.

And he doesn't really care much