Steven Bartlett

But there's a record of them not doing that.

So, you know, so that's just disingenuous.

I mean, it's true.

Hate speech is a, you know, it's a longer conversation.

I mean, how you define it, what you say it is.

But some countries do have hate speech.

Germany has them.

So Germany decided after World War II, you know, to ban Nazi symbols.

I think Germany is a very, very successful electoral democracy.

And if they want to ban Nazi symbols, I think they should be allowed to.

I mean, in America, that wouldn't work, you know, and you can't ban Nazi symbols in the United States.

But I don't see why America should impose its rules on Germany.

Like, doesn't Germany have sovereignty?

Doesn't Germany get to decide, you know, what the rules of its national conversation are?

And many people are.

If you spend any time on X, you will see it.

It's very hard to miss.

Sure, there's a difference between illegality and immorality.

And some, you know, historically, newspapers and other media have decided not to print racist material because it's immoral or because it's offensive.

Even social media platforms, I think, have a debate about how much ugly stuff they want to appear on their sites because if people see too much of it, they'll stop going on it.