Steven Bartlett

There's still a whole world out there where things are happening, you know, that's not online.

And making sure that we're constantly in touch with what's reality on the ground, what's really happening in Ukraine, you know, what's really happening in Iran and not living on just what's available to us on our phones.

It's really important.

We are very much, I mean, I think this has really happened already, that we live in our own algorithms.

When you're asking the more fundamental question about the breakdown of democracy, I mean, there's nothing more toxic to democracy than polarisation.

Because if you live in a world where the people on the other side of the political divide aren't just your rivals and you don't just disagree with them about taxes, you know, but they are your existential enemies.

And if they're in charge, then, you know, the world ends.

Then it's very hard to have a normal democratic debate or create a normal, you know, have a normal election.

from a long time ago and you're in it oh gosh oh it's wow that's a that took a lot of research yeah what is that?

that is they don't even have these anymore that was a New York Times wedding announcement

Which is the year I was born.

I've been married since 1992.

I'm still married to the person who it was announced that I was marrying.

A Polish, he was then a journalist.

And now he's the Polish foreign minister.

We got married in Washington, but he was born in Poland.

It's a long story, but anyway.

That was a long time ago.

I mean, it would be hard to deny that, yeah.

Yes.