Steven Bartlett

I mean, there are many reasons why people can't leave, even if they don't like their state or they don't like their political system.

You've used the word power.

Control over power ministries and the use of violence.

Most autocracies, sooner or later, want to create some kind of repressive system that's also physical.

So it's not just control of the information space.

There's also some element of coercion.

So people who don't go along with the system don't get to just float around.

There's some way of threatening them physically.

So ICE is not supposed to be that.

ICE is supposed to be an immigration enforcement institution.

But the way it's been used is well beyond the way any immigration institution was used before in the United States.

So look at what ICE looks like.

They are masked.

They are wearing military uniforms.

They are often driving unmarked cars.

They drive in vans.

They're not driving in police vans.

And they're not following the rules of local police.

They're not accountable to anybody.

They're not accountable to the mayor, you know, or to the governor of the state where they are.