Steven Bartlett

Because if you live in a world where the people on the other side of the political divide aren't just your rivals and you don't just disagree with them about taxes, you know, but they are your existential enemies.

And if they're in charge, then, you know, the world ends.

Then it's very hard to have a normal democratic debate or create a normal, you know, have a normal election.

from a long time ago and you're in it oh gosh oh it's wow that's a that took a lot of research yeah what is that?

that is they don't even have these anymore that was a New York Times wedding announcement

Which is the year I was born.

I've been married since 1992.

I'm still married to the person who it was announced that I was marrying.

A Polish, he was then a journalist.

And now he's the Polish foreign minister.

We got married in Washington, but he was born in Poland.

It's a long story, but anyway.

That was a long time ago.

I mean, it would be hard to deny that, yeah.

Yes.

I mean, actually it became more stressful in more recent years.

I mean, social media made it more stressful than it used to be.

The stressful part is living a part of your life in public.

We try to...

not live all of our lives in public.