Steven Bartlett

This has been very useful to me as a journalist, actually.

You begin to understand the difference between what you look like in public and what your reality is.

So people react to you in all kinds of ways, depending on where they've seen you on TV or what stories they've read about you, some of which might not be true.

And there's often a kind of, you know that the way you're perceived is not necessarily the way you are.

And so I try to keep that in mind when I meet public figures.

You know, that I have a set of perceptions of them based on what I've read about them, which I wouldn't have if I met, I don't know, somebody introduces me to the next door neighbor.

I wouldn't have that in my head when I met them.

But when you meet a politician or somebody who's well known, you come with stuff.

And I try when I meet people to drop it as much as I can.

Because I've seen it at home.

So, yes.

I mean, we have compatible lives that are somewhat different.

I mean, I have stayed well away from Polish politics.

I don't play any role in it.

I have a different name from my husband, which, you know, I didn't change my name.

And that also has allowed us to be separate.

And we share a lot of views, but not all.

And so we, you know, we have kind of different trajectories.

Yeah.

But as I said, I find mostly knowing what it's like to be a politician helps me understand them.