Steven Bartlett

And this, for me, is a dichotomy where I, as a CEO and as a founder, as an entrepreneur and someone that loves technology, I think it's incredible.

It's absolutely incredible, AI.

It's just so amazing and incredible.

The things it's enabled me to do and create.

And my car driving in the morning and being safer, incredible.

I think, you know, the billion odd people that use AI tools or chat GPT or whatever it might be, they'd probably say that it's added value to their life.

But...

And this is the part that people find confusing, that you can... And I invest in companies that are heavily using AI.

And the big but is, is it possible to think that is true and also think that there are significant unintended consequences, which technology and the history of technology should have taught us to take a moment to pause to talk about?

Yes.

And I think there needs to be a big social conversation, which is why I have so many conversations about AI in the show.

There needs to be a big social conversation about being intentional about the social impact, the social and environmental impact.

And that conversation is not being had in government from what I can see.

The conversation takes place in the industry.

And actually trying to pull it out of the industry and open people's minds to it is hopefully what we've been doing over the last couple of months with this subject.

Speaking of packed rooms, I know you've got to go.

Because you've got to talk today.

So we've got our last question, which is the closing tradition on this podcast.

How would your advice to a friend with a terminal diagnosis differ from what you would do yourself?

That's a great question.