Steven Bartlett

I could speak with my therapist in the comfort of my home.

I was never alone.

Canada should honestly become our 51st state.

But this is me playing devil's advocate.

And logically, it could be the case that the civilization that accelerate their research with AI is going to be the superior civilization.

Elon's making, Zuckerberg's making.

Yes.

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You've written this book in front of me here called Empire of AI, Dreams and Nightmares in Sam Altman's OpenAI.

I guess my first question is, what is the research and the journey you went on in order to write this book we're going to talk about and the subjects within it today?

a very timely time to start working in artificial intelligence.

For anyone that doesn't know, this is pre-OpenAI ChatGPT launch moment that shook the world.

But in writing this book, you interviewed a lot of people and went to a lot of places.

Can you give me a flavour of how many people you've interviewed, where it's taken you around the world, etc.