Steven Bartlett

It's not that we hate animals.

I think humans love animals and I have a lot of affection for them.

But when the time comes to build a highway between two cities, we are not asking the animals for permission.

We just do it because it's important to us.

And I think by default, that's the kind of relationship that's going to be between us and AI, which are truly autonomous and operating on their own behalf.

And that was in 2019, the year that you interviewed him.

Why does it matter to know the mechanism of

Is it not just important to know the outcome, which is that it's going to be able to do, make a video for me, or agents are going to be able to do the work that I do?

Does it really, really matter for us to know the mechanism behind it?

So why are they doing it?

I mean, you've interviewed all these people.

I think it's, what, 300 people in total?

80 or 90 of them from OpenAI, the maker of ChatGBC.

Why do you think they're doing it?

What do you mean by an imperial agenda?

What does that term mean?

You think they're gaslighting the public, in a way?

Did you have an example where this is happening to journalists as well, that are asking questions of...

Their team members.

I think I was watching a video of yours where there was a young man that was saying he had someone show up at his door, knocked on his door and asked for information, emails, text messages.