Steven Benson

Yeah.

Uh,

It's, uh, it's pretty, it's, it's interesting.

It's pretty good.

I can't believe I can't remember the name of that book, but I just, I'll look it up.

Don't worry about it.

Well, okay.

It's worth checking out for anyone that runs, that's, uh, that's, that has a SaaS business.

Barometrics for a SaaS business, I guess.

That's the one that I like.

That's actually one of my big goals of 2017, to get seven hours of sleep a night.

I probably average closer to...

Well, I get eight hours of sleep on the weekends, but during the week I, I, I average, uh, probably around five.

Hmm.

I wish that my 20 year old self, um,

had known that you learn a lot more working at small companies than big companies.

Cause I, I worked at a string of big companies, um, all state IBM, uh, autonomy, which, uh, HP bots and, and Google.

And, uh,

I think you learn a lot more working on small teams and small organizations.

And I wish that my 20-year-old self knew that you would learn that much more working in a small company.