Steven Benson

That's rare.

Yeah, and I believe that's the right thing to do.

So we have a really team...

very much have a team approach to this and everyone's kind of on the same team rowing in the same boat and

They behave that way, and I think we all feel that way.

And the company's early enough.

I don't know if that scales.

I don't know if you do that when you have 250 people at a company, but it works for us right now.

Um, yeah, I mean, we're, we're basically, uh, I guess we're, I think we're around doubling maybe 80% growth rate year over year.

Okay.

That's really healthy.

We've kind of been coming in at.

Um, I think we're, let me, uh, let me see exactly where we're at right now, but

i don't know if we're at well i guess when did we talk we talked in february march it was it was very or it was actually late late 2016 like it was the episode was published january 4th 2017 okay so yeah we were probably yeah we were like 130 140 then and now we're at like

Probably 180, 190.

Yep.

Um, we did raise a little bit more capital, nothing much.

We, we did another debt round, um,

With the same people, we did the original one for another, like, what do we do, like, 320K?

True debt, yeah, it's not convertible.