Steven Curtis Chapman

You're going to recognize your own need for grace, for, you know, for what only God can do through, as we understand it, through Jesus.

to keep changing you into that person.

You're longing for something.

You're made for something that you're never going to get in this world, C.S.

Lewis.

You're going to have those longings awakened in something and those echoes, and that's not a bad thing.

What you're longing for is what you're made for, Eden, perfect relationship.

You're longing for that, but you're not going to get it this side of heaven.

That's coming.

That's out there, but can you keep...

Trust in, you know, God to keep changing you and recognizing the longing that you're having that's going to make you, you know, and there is a real enemy who hates everything that's good and beautiful and reflects the goodness of God.

So we're going to be battling that.

It's just all of those realities.

So, you know, all of it is look in the mirror, see the reality of who you really are apart from the grace of God.

And then that's going to keep

That's where you're going to keep recognizing that there's hope for even as broken as it might feel right now, but it's only going to be found there.

I think that's been so much the journey for us.

Well, it's funny.

I don't know if we told the tattoo story in this or not, but this is a fun one.

I think we told this in maybe my book, and you told your version of it in yours because we've both written memoir kind of books before this together.