Steven Curtis Chapman

A little tiny.

It's a canardly diamond.

Canardly see it, but it's there.

It's there, baby.

It's one of those rare canardly diamonds.

That's right.

Well, man, part of the reason this book,

maybe took as many years as it did to write, is because of that very thing, I think so much of our journey, and this is probably more on me, but I think both of us are a little bit guilty of this or fall prey to this, but I think for so many years,

I was convinced that... Because we're as broken and as big of a mess.

I mean, honestly, we don't joke when we say... The reason we didn't want to write a book, people kept approaching us, publishers, ever since I wrote the song, I Will Be Here, which is 37 years ago now.

And that song kind of blew up and people started using it at weddings.

And publishers came and said, you know, that's a big song.

You should write a book about your wonderful marriage.

And we always said...

The only marriage book what you write is what not to do, how not to do it right, mistakes to avoid.

The guys who write the books are the guys that have the— The scars to prove.

Well, they're experts.

You write your five love languages and your ten keys and hidden keys of successful, all that, and we're like, we just don't have any of that.

And there was a lot of, especially in me, the other thing in both of us,

if only we could, if we can just get to the right conference, if we can just get to the right counselor, if we can just read the right book.