Steven Glinert

Okay, great.

Now we have to go to Malaysia and get a package.

By the way, all the OSAC guys, the packaging guys in Malaysia, are owned by Chinese companies.

The other place you can get a package is China.

But now you need the materials to do the packaging.

You need the specialized materials.

And fundamentally, the United States...

It's just unprofitable for many, most countries in the West to make the ceramic material because I don't know company in the United States is going to accept that margins.

There's like really low margins.

The screw factory.

But so what I keep going back to is, okay, you want to solve that?

You got to go to Mexico where someone will be able to get, will accept those little margins.

And if you blow up the relationship with Mexico, you can't do that.

So like you want to build ships for military scale?

You can't do that unless you like build relationships.

Can I go back?

I feel like I'm going to be a broken record for a moment, but like, good example.

Pax Silica is this initiative by the State Department.

It's a very intelligent initiative.

Jacob Paulberg is running it, and he's very intelligent.