Steven Holloway

But what I understand is you kind of, that wasn't your scene and you kind of like hang out with the nerds almost, like a quieter place on campus.

Because drinking age is 21.

So we sort of grow up and you have a few beers in the teenage years.

And it's like, it's not that big of a deal.

So you get there and it's like, yeah, a few beers.

Yeah, cool.

They get to have a few beers.

Oh, my God.

But if I got it right, you were named Academic All-American for that year?

Genius.

All right.

So I want to move us into the combine.

You do really well there.

And you get, this is one of the details I love.

You're kind of a bit of a surprise package.

Like people aren't perhaps expecting that much from you, but you impress them.

And so you get invited to all these different NBA teams to work out with them.

So you went to the Celtics, the Mavericks, OKC, 76ers, Utah, Cavs, Timberwolves, Chicago, Phoenix Hawks, Trailblazers and Kings.

And you describe it in your book as the most fun you've ever had playing basketball, jetting around to these NBA teams, spending a few days with them, getting gear for all the boys.

Is that still one of the best times you remember?