Steven Holloway

And it made that conversation a lot smoother.

But, yeah, it's crazy how these things kind of just line up.

Yeah, without the six years and the 20 before that doing football stuff.

It's good stuff.

Like, it is good stuff.

I mean, we've also still got to deliver on our podcast at the same time.

So, like, that exercise of shifting and front-loading so that while we are away, the machine keeps ticking over has been – it's put a bit of pressure on us, but it's pretty clear, like, how we want to do it and what we want to do and how we go about doing it.

So, yeah, it's –

The closer we get, the more exciting it is.

The funniest thing I think was like...

As Stephen has described, it was an idea.

And then as the pieces fell in the puzzle, we'd often get off meetings, like look at each other across the way and go, oh, well, I guess we're going to the World Cup then.

And it was like an in-joke, but then it's like really real.

And I can't wait to kind of hit the ground running.

Steve did ask me, though, when are you ever going to be happy?

And I said, well, when we're sitting on the plane on the tarmac in Auckland and I know we're going.

I said, you can enjoy those 12 and a half hours because as soon as we land in LA, I'll be miserable thinking about how are we going to get everything back again.

So enjoy those 12 hours of me being excited.

Yeah, so like moving hell and high water to kind of make that all work as well is an interesting exercise.

Another balancing act outside of the business side, which is cool.