Steven Holloway

And yeah.

I mean, that's kind of where Reflections potentially has the opportunity to come in, right?

To capture some of those stories and maybe help people work through some of those points around family situations that they might have had.

Because it's a private documentary at the end of the day, right?

It goes to those, it only goes to family.

So yeah, maybe it's a conversation with hospice.

Starts at work at hospice too, like incredible people that are dealing with those difficult moments literally every day they go to work, right?

Like they must be some of the most incredible people you can find to have that empathy.

For clarity, I wasn't there.

But it's a game of chance, and the money goes to a good cause.

The reason I didn't go to the Hospice Ball, I had back-to-back commentaries.

In fact, I've had a week of commentaries.

Flew down to Wellington and did the Wellington Phoenix semi-final at Porirua Park, which was really cool.

Linking up with a former guest, Priscilla Duncan, doing the commentary there.

Thinking about hotels, have you ever taken your kids away to a hotel and spent the night with them in a hotel?

Not very often.

Yeah.

Only once, actually.

Yeah.

Did you end up eating your dinner in the dark because they were sleeping and you couldn't turn the lights on?